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[sigchairs] The Bad News will go away.... {Tom Mandel 2004/04/08}
Posted by: daviding (
Date: April 29, 2004 04:22PM

I am beginning to catch a glimspe of the problem/situation. System science is unknown, not only to the general public, but also to the field of science. Only Capra and Wilber wrote in the popular press about a science of the system. Unknown with it, are some of the fundamentals that system science speaks of.

Today, the science has become complex-system science, and often in the popular press this is shortened to complexity science. Sometimes even the "new science of complexity"

There is a gap in our present-day knowledge. The knowledge gained at the transition between the classical object thinking ("thinging") and shift to the ontological category of interaction is not to be found in the "new" sciences. The public knowledge does not go from object to system to complex-system, it seems to go from object to complex-system in one jump. There is a quantum-knowledge-leap from object to complexity. How it gets there, the domain of the system science, is missing.

This creates a new science that is not accessible from the literature. It leaps from the object to complexity. Thus it is comprehensible only to a very few who have been fortunate enough to have mastered a play of relationships in a concrete way.

So the initial ontological framework necessary for the developmental step is being bypassed. And there doesn't seem to be anything we can do about it.


The lost writings of Ludwig von Bertalanffy, one of the founders of our society, and the author of General System Theory, have been found! An entire bookcase of books and all his letters, indexed and organized, have come back us.

It is possible that the world will find this to be great news. And along with it the lost science of elements in standing relationships.


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